Posted by Geoffrey Grosenbach Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:53:00 GMT
It’s great to see a variety of styles and moods. Kyle Neath takes a modern turn with Hemingway.
I can imagine it right now:
superman: Nice theme, but what does this have to do with Hemingway?!!!
Update: Now links to the Typo version, not the PHP version.
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A brand new Apple PowerBook 15" to the contest winner and an iBook 12" to the second place theme, as determined by the judges.
Combo pack of Agile Web Development with Rails, including a paper copy of the book and the PDF version.
One year blog hosting packages to the first 10 unique themes. A Level 3 Rails/Blog/PHP Hosting package to the contest winner.
Several copies of XScope, the on-screen inspection tools for Mac OS X. A copy of IconBuilder, the professional web and desktop icon design plugin.
One free year of Tables Turned’s podcast creation services, hosting, and access to the Play Safe podcast music library.
Download Hemingway
Hahaha :D
Great theme too by the way!
Nice theme! Not an identikit theme with just a colour or picture change.
Nice, but I ask the same question as Superman….
Excellent theme! One of the very best. Definitely the most unique so far.
You have managed a very appealing and dramatic visual feel without any baggage.
Great work.
This is a really pro-looking theme. Good work!
wow, this one is fantastic. i like the layout a lot. reminds me a bit of the aperture page at apple.
Yeah, I like this theme as well.
But i find the grey text on black background hard to read.
What happens when the user adds more sidebar items do they keep appearing below the posts. If so what happens if the owner has 10 large posts do they have to scroll to the bottom to view the sidebar items?
Anyway enough of a rant.. Great theme.. Good luck
Levi, I aknowledge all of your preturbs. Let me explain my thinking:
1. I had started (and originally planned on finishing) an inverted template (black on white) that you can see if you visit the sample install: http://hemingway.textdriven.com This is much more “readable” from a monitor perspective. Really, the readbility depends on how your monitor is set up, and the quality of it. Finals got in the way, what can I say. Didn’t get to finish it.
2. They appear. You can add as many sidebar items as you wish. I chose 3 because that’s the default I see around the typo community, so it looks most balanced with 3, 6, 9. But you can add them, they will keep lining up in grids.
3. I’m embracing the footer here. Just a design choice :) Sidebar items are usually ancillary items, and can live to be at the bottom (IMO).
By the way, I loved your theme too. One of the best I’ve seen out of this competition defiantely.
Thanks for the compliments guys!
Gorgeous.
I’m a celebrity. KICK ASS!!!
But seriuosly. Great Theme. This is the first truly simple design that actually has presence in this competition.
Loving this theme. might have hit a bug with 2.6.0 stable when clicking on the name or “read on”
Showing themes/hemingway/views/articles/read.rhtml where line #14 raised:
undefined method `article_html’ for #<#:0×8e134c0>
Otherwise, yummy yummy.
I agree with bonde – this design looks a lot like the apple apperture website [http://www.apple.com/aperture/].
Nice I agree but I think it looks a bit too inspired by Matt Brett
John,
I responded to your email with the answer to your problem. It has to do with the fact that Typo changed the way body text is retrieved right after 2.6 was released.
I chose future compatability over backwards-compatability.
Hmmm… I just tested this theme on my local install.
As much as I really WANT to like this theme I now see it’s not mature enough. There’s plenty of layout issues that occur when:
- you have more than just one or two posts on your frontpage - the posts vary in length - you have many different plugins enabled that vary in terms of height
All this results in ugly gaps of emptiness and / or layout issues.
This means the theme only really works if you maintain a strict discipline when it comes to how much content you place in the first part of a posting (Before the read more thing kicks in) and also in the amount of items you use in your sidebar plugins (some of those can’t be controlled enough to eliminate the problems completely by the way).
Once again: This theme looks killer cool on the screens and the demo site but it lacks flexibility when it comes to different kinds of posts / sidebar issues.
Kyle, if you want I can send you screenshots of what this all looks like on my test kit here.
kyle,
I would love to see the inverted style. I think it would add to the readabiliy of the whole template.
In response to Johns comment and your reply: I started to work with a trunk theme, and i can say that its anything but future compaible, well maybe for a couple of days. I believe a stable version will reach a much wider audience and give a benchmark for users. The trunk changes continuosly and doesnt give the user a stable point to download a theme.
Also, Marco has confirmed my concerns about having two posts on one line. I dont think too many bloggers would worried about the length of their posts and this could cause some issues. I have downloaded the theme and tested it with my demosite content, there is a lot of unbalanced whitespace.
In regards to the footer, what happens if a user decidedes they want to have 12 flikr photos and only two tags? Would that leave a large area before the next row of plugins. Are your del.icio.us and syndicate sidebar items styled? Can you add them to your demo site..
Just a few questions…
Cheers Leevi
“I agree with bonde – this design looks a lot like the apple apperture website [http://www.apple.com/aperture/].”
Not to be a jerk but steve does bring up a good point.
Levi/Marco,
As with any theme on the market, the content defines the design as much as the HTML and the CSS. As said previously, this version of Hemingway is targeted at an audience that posts 2-4 posts per month or less. This is not a kottke.org type of layout, but more a stopdesign.com type of layout.
For example: What if someone on your theme wanted to post a 700px wide picture in their post and keep a static layout? Your themes would both break, while mine would not.
I do recognize that problem with more than 3 posts, it was a bug on my end (sorry). I’ll be fixing that shortly. In fact, I’m going to keep working on this theme as time goes on. Hemingway does not stop at the end of this competition :)
You’re totally right about the width thing. I fully agree. However there’s still the issue with postings having a different length for the first paragraph. That will definitely lead to gaps.
You’ll also have to look at styling of sidebar plugins. A lot of them aren’t styled as nice as the ones in your demo.
Good thing you’re not letting Hemingway end with this contest. It’s a theme with a lot of potential. I’m also going to port mine to at least WordPress and Pivot :)
The CSS is set up for my sidebars so any sidebar will work given the same HTML given in all base plugins (h3 head). I just made some of them prettier ;)
For the Judges: Not sure how you guys want to handle updates. I’ll be updating my theme and that link will always be the “current” release. I’ve detailed (and archived older version) here at my blog
Hey Kyle,
Your not 100% right about my theme breaking.. It will in Internet Explorer but all our favourite browsers that support overflow:hidden, will just hide the extra content.
I also agree with Marco about not letting hemingway end. We all have worked too hard on these great themes to let them die after this comp… I might even be able to test mine on a new mac, he he.
Keep up the great work
Doesn’t like being installed in a subdirectory – the paths for the links to archives and such are messed up and some of the images have faulty paths.
I’m using it temporarily? on www.incumbent.org/share and you can see the problems there if you want.
Incumbent, I’m a bit confused here. Themes all go in the theme/ directory of your Typo install. So it should be something like: typo_install/themes/hemingway.
Also, your link returned a 400 – bad request for me.
I know where the themes go, but the imgs in the top part near the search box are called via weird paths.
I do not use typo in the /root of my site’s filesystem. I’m running it in a subdirectory.
When you do that, and are hard coding paths and such, you break the theme for people using subdirs.
Just look at the img src tags this theme (and others!) have in the source—this isn’t the only theme that is screwed up.
Sorry about the link, you probably left off a trailing slash:
http://incumbent.org/share/
For example, this rails error:
Cannot read file /Users/emory/Projects/typo-2.6.0/public/../config/..//themes/hemingway/images/archive.gif
That file is available, modes on the directories and files look kosher.
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/streaming.rb:55:in `send_file’ #{RAILS_ROOT}app/controllers/theme_controller.rb:27:in `render_theme_item’ #{RAILS_ROOT}app/controllers/theme_controller.rb:13:in `images’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:841:in `send’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:841:in `perform_action_without_filters’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:332:in `perform_action_without_benchmark’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `measure’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:82:in `perform_action’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:365:in `send’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:365:in `process_without_session_management_support’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.0/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in `process’ /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-0.14.3/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in `dispatch’ /Users/emory/Projects/typo-2.6.0/public/dispatch.cgi:10
is it just me, or is this theme really confusing?
If you find you’ve downloaded the theme, and Typo doesn’t recognize its existence, and you look inside, and you find a bunch of PHP files, and that makes you suspect you’ve downloaded the wrong file, you’d be right to suspect as such.
The above link now points to the WordPress version of the theme. Typo port here.
Some comments:
1) There is a white.css included in the theme. Just copy it to the public folder somewhere and reference it in the local.css file included in the theme.
2) There is a sample fixed-width setting in local.css as well.
3) You need to update the layout file as explained here: http://www.bofh.org.uk/articles/2006/04/09/scratching-an-itch (search the page for “render_sidebars”).
-Tom
Scratch #3, it breaks the rendering of the sidebars. I’m poking at it now to try to figure out how to fix it (being a rails newb and knowing very little about what parts of what I’m poking with a stick).